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"I'm done with it. I do, however, think that Ornello should apologize for the "They not infrequently smell," comment. I have been perfectly civil in my discourse."
--Gary
You have indeed been perfectly civil Gary and I hope that comment doesn't put you off from continuing to post here.
Personally, I'm all for a discussion about whether photography can be art or not, as long as participants who post in the thread remain civil without name calling or verbal mud slinging.
--Gary
You have indeed been perfectly civil Gary and I hope that comment doesn't put you off from continuing to post here.
Personally, I'm all for a discussion about whether photography can be art or not, as long as participants who post in the thread remain civil without name calling or verbal mud slinging.
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LOL
If you insist, I apologize. I have, however, known quite a few artists in my day, and personal hygiene is not among their strengths.
If you insist, I apologize. I have, however, known quite a few artists in my day, and personal hygiene is not among their strengths.
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I hasten to add I am referring primarily to males. I have dated several female artists...
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I maintain none the less that photographers wanting to be called 'artists' is ironic (because they think that this makes their work more important or valuable or something along those lines), for I regard photography as superior to and more important than art. It's like the president wanting to be called janitor.
In ancient Greece, the word for producers of what we today call 'art' was the same as what we call 'craftsmen'. There was no distinction, in other words, between artist and craftsman linguistically. In ancient Greece sculptors and painters were held in low regard, somewhere between freemen and slaves, their work regarded as mere manual labor.
In ancient Greece, the word for producers of what we today call 'art' was the same as what we call 'craftsmen'. There was no distinction, in other words, between artist and craftsman linguistically. In ancient Greece sculptors and painters were held in low regard, somewhere between freemen and slaves, their work regarded as mere manual labor.
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"I regard photography as superior to and more important than art."
Of course.
Of course.
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So, Keith, now perhaps it's clear why I deeply oppose photographers calling themselves 'artists'. It's not that 'art' is something better; it's that it's something worse....
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I searched on Amazon for the book by Roger Scruton, but coud not find it. I did find this though.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65YpzZrwKI4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65YpzZrwKI4
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Coud should have been could. Sorry for the typo.
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He has written quite a few, and The Aesthetic Understanding is where I would suggest you start.
http://rogerscruton.wordpress.com/
Aesthetic Understanding: Essays in the Philosophy of Art and Culture
http://rogerscruton.wordpress.com/
Aesthetic Understanding: Essays in the Philosophy of Art and Culture
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Another place where you can find Roger's essay "Why Photography is Not Art" is in Aesthetics: A Reader, ed. Goldblatt and Brown.
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I have searched for "The Aesthetic Understanding" without success. I sent an email to the man himself who replied: ("You may be able to obtain it from St Augustine's Press, South Bend, Indiana.") Oh well.
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No way am I paying this much for a copy.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Aesthetic-Under ... 1890318027
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Aesthetic-Under ... 1890318027
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I got mine a couple years ago for $25 or so.